Waterboarding

My one thought about waterboarding is... we could win the battle and yet lose the war... in the past we made friends out of enemies because of how well we treated them in captivity... POWs became I-94s...
... Japanese soldiers fed on the fear of American treatment in captivity and would die before being captured... when this stigma was changed our enemies were changed...
... and How many Americans did you see defecting over to Russia in the Cold War?...
... Our culture won a war... while the military at best stalemated it's way through Korea and Vietnam... it was freedom... and the power of a semi-free market (which is the biggest part of the culture according to Karl Marx)...
... these terrorists were raised on one form of education... a very strict and very violent translation of the Koran... and that's all they know... Similarly, (as far as I know), people in the Middle-East have a very structured and controlled... very negative view of America...
... How are we going to change their minds if they only see us at our worst?...

... Now the argument is made that we don't have time to win this way because attacks are imminent...

... And the argument can be made that everything is different when you throw religion into the mix?...

... And you're probably right on both counts... to a degree... but why are we so stuck on trashing ourselves that we have to go all the way back to something in 2003 to ferret out more negativity?... How is anyone going to want to be a part of Western culture when we hate ourselves?... Why since I've been in the States have I not heard anything positive about anything?... What happened to this one great nation so confident in it's own goodness?... It's there if people would just trouble to look for it... Or have things really slipped so bad that forget about keeping things right... skipping right to the end of Carl Schultz' quote... and 'When wrong, to put it right'...